rethinking, redefining the meaning of art and what it means to be an artiste

To the right is presented a definition of artiste or artist by wikipedia. But there are not only those kind of artiste

there needs to be other way of defining artists and art, that are not locked into these definitions that we then have to talk about non-art as art or non-artiste as artiste to define artist that don't fit into these standards

or what made me want to write this morning, and suddenly since 2007 use this blog, reading what Jacob Wren posted on facebook, 21 hours ago from today at 10 am january 10th, 2013

this was Jacob Wren's post:
“Whatever meaning we give to outsider art — art made by psychotics; art made by non-professional, untrained artists; art made by the socially marginalized; art that is not art because it was never conceived as art; art made spontaneously, that is, without knowledge of what art is supposed to be; art that is defined as art by other people (insiders) instead of its maker (an outsider) — whatever meaning we give to outsider art, it says much more about mainstream art than about whatever is outside it.

Logically speaking, then, “mainstream art” (or art tout court?) should be made by sane people; trained and professional people; socially successful people; mainstream art is art that has been art since the moment of its conception; un-intuitive art, that is, art made with well-grounded knowledge of what art is supposed to be; art that is defined as art by its maker (an insider).

No wonder then, that the truth about art might sound like: radical artists profoundly mistrust the ideology of art.”

— Dora García.


here is my reflection and thoughts that spontaneous came out today january 10th, 2013, 57 minutes ago, in my online response to Jacob Wren's post, that I felt fit this blog - about what is invisible in relation to art and artiste

invisible art is what happens that is not seen, and then there is visible art that simply hits you and then visible art that you have to know what went on within, to understand what we see as visible. What we call non-art is what is traditionally what is not perceived as art, but I think is working to create new perceptions that don't fit into what we know as "art", or an attempt at injecting an old perception with a new "life", a new way of seeing in something that might seem ordinary but in fact it is just taken for granted. The issue is how is this shared or communicated, is it, or does it stay within the "creator" or "artist". So a person who is engaged in this process, of desiring, working to create new perceptions, succeeding or failing to communicate this through visible means, words, sounds or all or some, then, is an artist. It is the time "the artist" takes (which can be constant or blank (the in the moon thing), and is simply passionately concerned and engaged in this process, sometimes without even wanting to be, it is just who that person is. And when you do it for a long time, it can begin as a child and stop there or, it is the life experience too of just persisting, because it doesn't stop after childhood, because it just doesn't, whether a person is encouraged or not, but encouragement does definitely help.....


Thursday, January 10, 2013

invisible and yet to be created definition of art - beyong the extremes of outsider art, or just not using the word "outsider art" art all. Children are children, and everyone and anyone could become insane or stand out or look like an "outsider"........


here is my reflection and thoughts that spontaneous came out today january 10th, 2013, 57 minutes ago, in my online response to Jacob Wren's post, that I felt fit this blog - about what is invisible in relation to art and artiste

invisible art is what happens that is not seen, and then there is visible art that simply hits you and then visible art that you have to know what went on within, to understand what we see as visible. What we call non-art is what is traditionally what is not perceived as art, but I think is working to create new perceptions that don't fit into what we know as "art", or an attempt at injecting an old perception with a new "life", a new way of seeing in something that might seem ordinary but in fact it is just taken for granted. The issue is how is this shared or communicated, is it, or does it stay within the "creator" or "artist". So a person who is engaged in this process, of desiring, working to create new perceptions, succeeding or failing to communicate this through visible means, words, sounds or all or some, then, is an artist. It is the time "the artist" takes (which can be constant or blank (the in the moon thing), and is simply passionately concerned and engaged in this process, sometimes without even wanting to be, it is just who that person is. And when you do it for a long time, it can begin as a child and stop there or, it is the life experience too of just persisting, because it doesn't stop after childhood, because it just doesn't, whether a person is encouraged or not, but encouragement does definitely help.....
Posted by at No comments:
Subscribe to: Posts (Atom)